Favorite filler for cast iron?
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Favorite filler for cast iron?
My Coventry castings on the 3/4" D30 0-6-0 have a worm hole or two; some have some pits below the surface. As these are NOT John K's Friends Yankee Shop Models castings I can't expect him to replace them. Mostly cosmetic, but one connects the outside of a cylinder head to the counterbore the piston rod nut fits in.
Any suggestion for your favorite filler/bondo? Anything that will be steam tight?
John
Any suggestion for your favorite filler/bondo? Anything that will be steam tight?
John
Re: Favorite filler for cast iron?
The original (not quick set) JB Weld is good stuff and readily available.
Denny
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Re: Favorite filler for cast iron?
JB Weld makes a whole range of different products including ones that are safe for high temperature applications. For any parts that will get hot from the boiler/steam I would be sure to use something well above the necessary temperature range.
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Re: Favorite filler for cast iron?
As Denny wrote above, the regular JB Weld works great. It is easy to sand down to an imperceptible blend into the surrounding area, and it's good to 550 degrees.
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Re: Favorite filler for cast iron?
Nickel bearing silver solder (safety silv 50n) does decent on CLEAN cast iron, use the black flux, and don't overheat the flux.
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I've had good luck stick welding cast iron with this high nickel rod (ENi-CI (Ni99))from Mcmaster #7973A612. Get everything nice and toasty with a torch (sooty and then burn it off), weld, then cover with a fireproof blanket when done to let it cool down. Machines well.
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Not enough measuring tools...
1.5" Allen Models Consolidation on air.
1" FEF in progress
1" & 3/4" LE Projects
I'm thankful that metal is recyclable....
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Re: Favorite filler for cast iron?
Hello Good People,
Possibly thinking about the pin hole /worm hole just thinkin could you drill and tap for a model bolt or model pipe hole fill it with jb weld assemble it while the goop is setting up , by screwing in the threads you would be hydraulically filling the void gently so you don't split the casting like finger tight several times before, letting it set up .And then saw off the plug,\/ bolt peen it down file it off . like your Play-doh days of youth if you have no welder or torches. marine epoxies "Splash Zone" brand name if they still make it worked well
Possibly thinking about the pin hole /worm hole just thinkin could you drill and tap for a model bolt or model pipe hole fill it with jb weld assemble it while the goop is setting up , by screwing in the threads you would be hydraulically filling the void gently so you don't split the casting like finger tight several times before, letting it set up .And then saw off the plug,\/ bolt peen it down file it off . like your Play-doh days of youth if you have no welder or torches. marine epoxies "Splash Zone" brand name if they still make it worked well
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Re: Favorite filler for cast iron?
I have filled in such with brazing rod (brass) and an oxy touch with borax flix.
Takes time to get hot and you should allow to cool slowly...but it works.
Takes time to get hot and you should allow to cool slowly...but it works.
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Re: Favorite filler for cast iron?
If it's cosmetic JB Weld is fine, if it's structural braze it.
I bought a Pacific project a few years ago that had rod binding issues; aside from the quartering being out, when I pressed out the axles I found the hubs looked like sponges. On one wheel there was only about 10% bearing on a key. I packed the axle holes with liquid steel and did the screw trick previously mentioned to force the liquid steel into all the nooks and crannies, drilled, reamed, bored and cut new key slots in a different quadrant. And although I'm continuing to rebuild the project, I don't think I will invest in a boiler, because in retrospect I don't trust that the wheels will hold up in service. Moral of the story...do an appropriate repair. John
I bought a Pacific project a few years ago that had rod binding issues; aside from the quartering being out, when I pressed out the axles I found the hubs looked like sponges. On one wheel there was only about 10% bearing on a key. I packed the axle holes with liquid steel and did the screw trick previously mentioned to force the liquid steel into all the nooks and crannies, drilled, reamed, bored and cut new key slots in a different quadrant. And although I'm continuing to rebuild the project, I don't think I will invest in a boiler, because in retrospect I don't trust that the wheels will hold up in service. Moral of the story...do an appropriate repair. John
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Thanks for your experiences guys!
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Re: Favorite filler for cast iron?
Note...if you are filling a deep hole with brazing rod it may be necessary to grind it out so that you can get the filler all the way to the bottom.. or air will bubble up and cause problems...think funnel...
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I will add that it is better to fill the cavities with a thin tool so that there are no air bubbles left at the bottom. Metal hardens quickly in cold material.