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If you have a tunnel, it looks like you'll be seeing the light at the end of it soon.

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Re: on to victory

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Is this a continuation of this thread "tie work"?
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Re: on to victory

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yup sorry about that, i'll remember just to put on the old thread next time
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Congratulations, Dan, on your continued major effort to replace wood ties with plastic. It will inevitably demonstrate the falicy of dominate thinking in some clubs that plastic ties are "too expensive." What will those misguided club officials do when their sacred wood ties inevitably rot and need replacement (again) by a then-aged membership?

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Look good Dan. I found that my Ryobi sawzall made a great tamper.
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B&OBob wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:54 pm Congratulations, Dan, on your continued major effort to replace wood ties with plastic. It will inevitably demonstrate the falicy of dominate thinking in some clubs that plastic ties are "too expensive." What will those misguided club officials do when their sacred wood ties inevitably rot and need replacement (again) by a then-aged membership?

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Re: tie work

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Gra2472 wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 2:43 pm Look good Dan. I found that my Ryobi sawzall made a great tamper.
Thank You!
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Gra2472 wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 2:43 pm Look good Dan. I found that my Ryobi sawzall made a great tamper.
what are you using for a tamping foot?

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Any concerns regarding the vertical height of the plastic tie being shorter than the wooden tie? Or are you using the tall tie?

I like the idea of the tall unit with the foot..
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I just used a worn out blade as the tamping foot. Its great because like a real tamper it will vibrate itself through the rock to get UNDER the ties. The reciprocal motion helps to drive the rock under while it vibrates the rock down into the void under the ties. As soon as it starts to push back or rock starts to fly rather than disappear under tie, you're done. If I had HUGE holes under the ties I would drive the ballast under with my shovel handle first. Using the sawzall I could tamp very quickly and it did a very good job.
If I get a chance this evening after work, I will try to get some video to demonstrate.
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Re: tie work

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Bill Shields wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 12:50 am Any concerns regarding the vertical height of the plastic tie being shorter than the wooden tie? Or are you using the tall tie?

I like the idea of the tall unit with the foot..
well sadly accu tie is only making the tall ties for 7.5 gauge right now, but the smaller ties as far as vertical height. honestly have no effect. we did have a few areas heat kink last year. but those areas are fixed and so far no other issues have occurred. plus bill with the smaller ties, I can pack the ballast under the ties with my scoop better especially in the center. plus I have better control when im spacing them apart from one another. so honestly the smaller ties just work better and faster. I wouldn't have gotten as far and fast as I have these last 4 years if we were using tall ties. or still cutting and gauging the old fashioned way
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Re: tie work

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I seem to recall reading that 1:1 railroads avoid tamping in the middle of the tie, as it may make it unstable if the shoulders get soft? Just curious, have never done it myself...
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