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Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:00 pm
by mclarenross
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:20 pm
by hammermill
I will guess at a early moshen nagant,it seems to be missing a extractor????
Given the. Straight bolt and rear knob
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:52 pm
by redneckalbertan
Sorry I can't help you with the ID of the rifle, but that looks to be a beautifully figured stock! Much nicer than the utility grade fence post that is slapped on a lot of the rifles now.
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:43 pm
by mclarenross
I see the similarities to a Mosin but I cant find any single shot Mosins. This thing has a completely solid bottom and no locking lugs at all in the front.
The piece of wood on this gun is beautiful, its just so covered in crap its sad. If the metal is salvageable he wants to strip the stock and refinish it cause it has some beautiful lines.
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:16 pm
by redneckalbertan
If He is going to refinish the gun I would recomend tung oil as I am a fan on the finish. I have yet to refinish a gun stock with it but have used it on other wood projects and is a beautiful matte finish that enhances the look of the grain and is a good water proofing agent. I have a .22 cooey in the safe that is marked for just that when I get a round to it!
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:00 pm
by GeorgeGaskill
The gunsmith's name is typical Armenian and although I haven't seen any Armenian writing since 1972, it is my guess that the non-English writing is Armenian. Since Armenia was part of the Russian empire in those days, some Russian rifle is a logical choice.
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:22 pm
by JackF
Maybe I'm all wet but it appears the lugs may be in the receiver for the recesses in the bolt to lock on to?
Jack.
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:02 pm
by PeteH
For a low pressure round like .32, that big rectangular block under the bolt handle probably would be locking lug enough.
It would be interesting to get some sense of what this started life as.
Clearly, the smith was taking some care when he built it -- note the engraving in the sixth picture.
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:30 pm
by mclarenross
Interesting leads guys. Thanks so much. Ill look into the Armenian alphabet and see where it leads.
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:06 pm
by hammermill
one thing keep me wondering the bolt stop on the side hints of mauser, the lack of front lugs hints franken gun,
does the rcvr have lugs broached into it, for what i am seeing besides the missing parts the only lug a present is the bolt, with the 32 special being a 40,000 psi round. here is a complete moshen bolt photo
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:57 pm
by mclarenross
Hammermill, your on the same page as I am. There are no rails or broaching at all on the bore of the receiver. As far as I can tell the only lug at all is the bolt handle, which is soldered onto the body so i dont trust it at all.
Re: Mystery rifle a guy brought me
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:38 am
by PeteH
Had the ammo manufacturers gone over to smokeless powder by the time this was built (1915), or was black powder still the norm ? That might influence how much pressure you'd need to withstand.