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by JJG Koopmans
Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:43 pm
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Drafting issues
Replies: 30
Views: 7086

Re: Drafting issues

Congratulations! My 2 cents! The coal burning system of a steam locomotive is a prime example of a closed loop control system: more exhaust steam releases more energy from the coal bed. In a gas or fluids system the control loop is by hand, so no closed loop control anymore! Then, the calorific valu...
by JJG Koopmans
Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:39 pm
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Drafting issues
Replies: 30
Views: 7086

Re: Drafting issues

Before applying something drastic like a Lempor, you better lean back and contemplate why this is working at all! It is the momentum from the jet that entrains the gases and expels them at the chimney top. If you want to improve there is a solution which comes from the textbooks on fluid dynamics. A...
by JJG Koopmans
Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:06 pm
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Draft
Replies: 2
Views: 1210

Re: Draft

It is a pity that the second video gives such a poor explanation of the improved draft of a Lempor. This has little to do with whatever Dante Porta or Nigel Day stated, but has everything to do with the explanations of Buckingham of 1913(!!) as treated in a proper text book in fluid dynamics. Kind r...
by JJG Koopmans
Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:43 pm
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Steam exhaust nozzle
Replies: 20
Views: 8142

Re: Steam exhaust nozzle

Since others might be interested: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320756980_On_the_calculation_of_steam_locomotive_front-end_performance and for the multiples: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343694913_On_the_calculation_of_steam_locomotive_front-ends_with_more_than_one_exhaust_ori...
by JJG Koopmans
Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:57 pm
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Steam exhaust nozzle
Replies: 20
Views: 8142

Re: Steam exhaust nozzle

Hi Andrew, Thanks for the quick reply! Let there be no doubt that the Lempor is working properly. However, contrary to the believers, I am of the opinion that it is not the ultimate design. A multiple orifice is an example of Buckinghams 1913 explanation of the functioning of models: if a chimney an...
by JJG Koopmans
Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:02 am
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Steam exhaust nozzle
Replies: 20
Views: 8142

Re: Steam exhaust nozzle

"The LemPor Ejector is by far the more efficient and better front end, thermodynamically."
That is an opinion and not the result of proper scientific testing. Also the Lempor does not comply with the general ideas as taught in fluid dynamics!
Kind regards
Jos Koopmans
by JJG Koopmans
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:02 am
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Exhaust Manifold - Modern Solution
Replies: 16
Views: 7477

Re: Exhaust Manifold - Modern Solution

Given your emphasis on performance and sound, I am wondering why you did no go any further and replaced the single orifice by a multiple one, say BigBoy style. The theory behind this is discussed in any modern textbook on fluid dynamics. I.e. four orifices give identical performance with 4 scaled ch...
by JJG Koopmans
Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:52 am
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Challenger Smokebox Design
Replies: 21
Views: 13225

Re: Challenger Smokebox Design

...... There are many differences between the multi port blast nozzle ejector system and the single port- chiefly the multi-port exhaust surface area is over twice as large as single port versions...... Regards, Glenn Rereading the thread this quote surprised me. Did you ever mathematically check t...
by JJG Koopmans
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:53 pm
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Challenger Smokebox Design
Replies: 21
Views: 13225

Re: Challenger Smokebox Design

Before fabricating anything one should realize why this works at all. Basically a double chimney with 8 orifices is to be regarded as a bundle of 8 scale models of a single large chimney. The original explanation was already given by Mr Buckingham in 1913 and is covered by many pages in modern textb...
by JJG Koopmans
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Lempor Blast nozzle design
Replies: 8
Views: 5629

Re: Lempor Blast nozzle design

For what it is worth, I used an orifice length of twice its diameter. As for their inclination, during the tests of Michaels front-end we found that the inclination that is mentioned by Lempor lovers choked the performance. I would like to suggest that a four-orifice unit should be seen as a bundle ...
by JJG Koopmans
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Which pressure gauge to use?
Replies: 27
Views: 13933

Re: Which pressure gauge to use?

Hi all, The report of the Committee on Locomotive Front Ends of the Master Mechanics Ass. of 1906 is also on line: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015012686153&view=1up&seq=253 This shows the diminished performance of petticoats. The other book of Goss is Locomotive Sparks, also...
by JJG Koopmans
Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: Live Steam
Topic: Which pressure gauge to use?
Replies: 27
Views: 13933

Re: Which pressure gauge to use?

About the four nozzles, it does not make sense to position them on the same level as a single orifice. The optimal distance is about 6-7 orifice diameters, so with 4 orifices they are closer to the chimney entrance. As for the petticoats, I wonder why nobody cares to look again at the Goss experimen...