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hoppercar
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Minimum radius

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How do you determine the minimum radius required for an 1 1/2 scale locomotive, to determine if a blind drivers would be needed,?...is there a quick and simple formula ?
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As long as you know the lateral movement, axle spacing and number of axles on the rigid frame.it is a simple CAD layout exercise.

Yes..there are formulas but I like to see it (dinosaur)

Remember...blind drivers most often also require wider tires.
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Oftentimes, the limiting factor is not the “rigid wheelbase” (the drivers), but the “total wheelbase” (including the leading and trailing trucks), because there is not enough swing in the trucks for a curve. So you should layout a scale drawing of the engine axles and place it on a drawing of the curve, to see what the sideways displacement of the trucks would need to be.
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Here are some items. There was a great article in Grand Scales Quarterly Issue 29.
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Grand Scales Quarterly Issue 29 can be found at:

http://grandscales.com/GSQ_Issue_29.pdf
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Re: Minimum radius

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What is the recommended clearance on each side of the track? Would a 3 foot wide right of way be enough.
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Probably.

Depends on wide some footpegs are mounted....and how overweight the cattle may be. :mrgreen:

I have been in many locations that did not have 3 ft on the lift or transfer table...and some fellows have to pull pegs to get in and out
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If you have the space, I'd say more is better. I seem to recall that Quentin once said there should always be enough room for a pregnant woman to disembark.
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wbarbe wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:00 pm What is the recommended clearance on each side of the track? Would a 3 foot wide right of way be enough.
A 36 inch ROW only gives 18 inches from the centerline on each side. Pretty easy to snag a tree or bridge member with your knee. 48 inches is much better.
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One idea for ROW is the width of the ballasted track plus one mower width on each side.
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