New small mill
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:40 am
Hi
My mill just died... It's not actually a separate mill, but a milling column and head for my lathe (Emco).
It was always a little crowded to work on the lathe because of it... so I'm thinking of getting a mill.
I don't use it much. Maybe once a month, but I really need it maybe a few times a year (I use it for my work, it's not just a hobby).
I mostly work on brass, German silver, occasionally plastic. I don't mill much steel, but there is one thing I need to do sometimes which requires milling tool steel (O1 and W1), with a 3/4" diameter dovetail cutter. I don't mind taking many very small cuts.
I used to have a Sherline which is way too small.
I can't get a Bridgeport or anything even close to that, too big and heavy.
I'm limited to about 300kg, preferably under 200kg, and it needs to be pretty small.
It seems that European companies like Klippefeld and Ceriani stopped making mills. Wabeco is the only option left and it gets a lot of excellent but also some pretty bad reviews.
Other than that, locally there is Sieg and Holzman. It looks like Sieg is an actual manufacturer. I used to have a Sieg lathe and it was a nightmare. I was happy to get rid of it. Even after all of the work, some design issues made it annoying.
Not sure who makes the Holzman machines. They seem different from Sieg, but it doesn't look like Holzman is an actual manufacturer.
I also found a local importer of Rong Fu Taiwanese mills... but a few recent reviews I found suggest they might not be Taiwanese anymore, or at least not as good as they used to be. I don't know their price yet either.
Used local options are extremely limited. Usually Bridgeport and larger mills, with some of the smallest and cheapest mills (like Sieg).
I don't want to buy a "project" no matter what I buy. I don't mind a few hours to make it work, but my Sieg requires 30-40 hours to make it even close to dent from new... The Emco need a lot of work too, but at least it was good after all of that.
Making more space for a larger mill is not an option at all.
Locally Chinese mills seem to cost about double their cost in the UK or Germany. The Wabeco is also more expensive here than in Germany, but not by that much (I think about 35%).
So not sure what to do... any suggestions? Anyone who's been in a similar situation?
Thank you
My mill just died... It's not actually a separate mill, but a milling column and head for my lathe (Emco).
It was always a little crowded to work on the lathe because of it... so I'm thinking of getting a mill.
I don't use it much. Maybe once a month, but I really need it maybe a few times a year (I use it for my work, it's not just a hobby).
I mostly work on brass, German silver, occasionally plastic. I don't mill much steel, but there is one thing I need to do sometimes which requires milling tool steel (O1 and W1), with a 3/4" diameter dovetail cutter. I don't mind taking many very small cuts.
I used to have a Sherline which is way too small.
I can't get a Bridgeport or anything even close to that, too big and heavy.
I'm limited to about 300kg, preferably under 200kg, and it needs to be pretty small.
It seems that European companies like Klippefeld and Ceriani stopped making mills. Wabeco is the only option left and it gets a lot of excellent but also some pretty bad reviews.
Other than that, locally there is Sieg and Holzman. It looks like Sieg is an actual manufacturer. I used to have a Sieg lathe and it was a nightmare. I was happy to get rid of it. Even after all of the work, some design issues made it annoying.
Not sure who makes the Holzman machines. They seem different from Sieg, but it doesn't look like Holzman is an actual manufacturer.
I also found a local importer of Rong Fu Taiwanese mills... but a few recent reviews I found suggest they might not be Taiwanese anymore, or at least not as good as they used to be. I don't know their price yet either.
Used local options are extremely limited. Usually Bridgeport and larger mills, with some of the smallest and cheapest mills (like Sieg).
I don't want to buy a "project" no matter what I buy. I don't mind a few hours to make it work, but my Sieg requires 30-40 hours to make it even close to dent from new... The Emco need a lot of work too, but at least it was good after all of that.
Making more space for a larger mill is not an option at all.
Locally Chinese mills seem to cost about double their cost in the UK or Germany. The Wabeco is also more expensive here than in Germany, but not by that much (I think about 35%).
So not sure what to do... any suggestions? Anyone who's been in a similar situation?
Thank you