Thread question
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Thread question
I'm trying to identify the thread size in a gm brake caliper pin. I've asked the manufacturer and they won't tell me. Other manufacturers don't respond and the thread size isn't listed anywhere.
Using digital calipers on the diameter I get inch=.430 (7/16?). On metric I get 10.94 (11mm?).
A "larger" repair pin that taps its own threads in a stripped hole says 7/16-20 on the package. I cannot thread a 7/16-20 die on the pin at all.
So, I'm thinking it is an M11. But I'm not sure of the pitch. Maybe 1.25? Here are 2 pics, one metric one inch
Using digital calipers on the diameter I get inch=.430 (7/16?). On metric I get 10.94 (11mm?).
A "larger" repair pin that taps its own threads in a stripped hole says 7/16-20 on the package. I cannot thread a 7/16-20 die on the pin at all.
So, I'm thinking it is an M11. But I'm not sure of the pitch. Maybe 1.25? Here are 2 pics, one metric one inch
Re: Thread question
I am inclined to believe that it is a 7/16-20. Your picture shows 6 thread crests 1/4" apart, that means there are 5 spaces in 1/4 inch so 5 x 4 = 20.
None of my books show a M11 thread of any sort but the internet shows:
M11 x 1.5; so the pitch is 1.5mm (or .059" or 16.9 TPI)
M11 x 1.0; so the pitch is 1.0mm (or .03937" or 25.4 TPI)
M11 x .75;
M11 x .5:
None of those fit your picture which shows 11 spaces in 15mm or a pitch of 11/15 = 1.36mm.
Be aware that I am NOT an auto mechanic.
--earlgo
None of my books show a M11 thread of any sort but the internet shows:
M11 x 1.5; so the pitch is 1.5mm (or .059" or 16.9 TPI)
M11 x 1.0; so the pitch is 1.0mm (or .03937" or 25.4 TPI)
M11 x .75;
M11 x .5:
None of those fit your picture which shows 11 spaces in 15mm or a pitch of 11/15 = 1.36mm.
Be aware that I am NOT an auto mechanic.
--earlgo
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Re: Thread question
I'm betting that it is a thread w/ 1.25 mm thread. On the mm scale the threads line up exactly between 10 mm with 8 threads in that 10 mm. 10 divided by 8 is 1.25
If you have a Metric tap and die set there should be a thread gauge in that set.
Here is a quick search showing an M11 x 1.25 mm tap
https://www.amazon.com/1-25-Metric-Righ ... B0084C5ZOM
Good luck!
Harper
If you have a Metric tap and die set there should be a thread gauge in that set.
Here is a quick search showing an M11 x 1.25 mm tap
https://www.amazon.com/1-25-Metric-Righ ... B0084C5ZOM
Good luck!
Harper
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Re: Thread question
Thanks for the help guys. Tomorrow I'm going to take the part to a welder to see if he can fill the hole and then drill and tap them. Hopefully he can match the thread up, I wanted to give him as much info as possible. If not I'll let him weld them up and then I will buy a metric gauge and try doing it myself.
Earlgo...I would think 7/16-20 is it also but my die will not even make it up one thread
I dint have a metric t/d set....yet.
Earlgo...I would think 7/16-20 is it also but my die will not even make it up one thread
I dint have a metric t/d set....yet.
Re: Thread question
try a 7/16-20 nut.
A die can be a bit prickly to get started and it may be a rolled thread.
A die can be a bit prickly to get started and it may be a rolled thread.
Glenn
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Re: Thread question
I've been meaning to take it to home depot and thread it into their thread checking plate. I have had 7/16-20 hardware floating around as I save nuts and bolts,but I moved and got rid of tons of stuff.
The die felt like it wanted to cut new threads, really tough to start.
The die felt like it wanted to cut new threads, really tough to start.
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Re: Thread question
What year?
Be careful about welding and then expecting to then drill and tap...unless you have access to a replacement.
Be careful about welding and then expecting to then drill and tap...unless you have access to a replacement.
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Re: Thread question
It's an 81 pontiac
I was reading that drilling weld and tapping it could be difficult because it heats up fast and then cools down and hardens. Hopefully this will be done at the welders,,they offer a ton of services so I have some faith in them
I was reading that drilling weld and tapping it could be difficult because it heats up fast and then cools down and hardens. Hopefully this will be done at the welders,,they offer a ton of services so I have some faith in them
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Exactly my concern
I would drill it out oversize, rirve a donut into the recess and weld the OD...leaving the ID undisturbed.
I would drill it out oversize, rirve a donut into the recess and weld the OD...leaving the ID undisturbed.
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Re: Thread question
I found something called threaded weld washers. If I had a welding machine I would go that route. Looks like the easiest fix, sort of what you mentioned about the donut.
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Or maybe a helicoil could be found..?
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Re: Thread question
Are other fasteners on the caliper metric or imperialist?
A helicoil would be the best, but finding one for that thread would be a miracle.
So as I understand it, the pin is just the retainer for the pads?
In that case, I would drill oversize, tap with whatever you have, and make a custom pin.
Maybe from a bolt.
Maybe you can get a bolt with the new thread already on it, so you'd only need to turn down the pin section a bit.
A helicoil would be the best, but finding one for that thread would be a miracle.
So as I understand it, the pin is just the retainer for the pads?
In that case, I would drill oversize, tap with whatever you have, and make a custom pin.
Maybe from a bolt.
Maybe you can get a bolt with the new thread already on it, so you'd only need to turn down the pin section a bit.