Are there any paint experts among us?

[FLtenwheeler]

Are there any paint experts among us?

Pullman Green and Other Railroad Colors

Barbara J. Klobucar 2000 Thesis
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The DuPont colors are 2.5 Gallon Formulas
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Pullman Standard Body Brown

DuPont Centari YS260

758S Centari Drier 4.4

763A Orange 13.8

764A Yellow 35.2

705A Black 89.9
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Pullman Standard Body Brewster Green "Pullman Green"

DuPont Centari YS560

758S Centari Drier 4.4

763A Orange 6.4

764A Yellow 25.8

705A Black 89.4
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American Car and Foundry "Pullman Green"

DuPont Centari YS448

758S Centari Drier 4.4

763A Orange 8.0

764A Yellow 25.6

705A Black 89.5
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American Car and Foundry "Pullman Green"

DuPont Centari YS552 7

58S Centari Drier 4.4

763A Orange 7.0

764A Yellow 26.0

705A Black 89.4
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Pressed Steel "Pullman Green"

DuPont Centari YS452

758S Centari Drier 4.4

763A Orange 7.8

764A Yellow 37.0

705A Black 89.9
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Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Olive Green

DuPont Centari YS545

758S Centari Drier 4.5

763A Orange 5.4

705A Black 31.5

764A Yellow 90.9
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Baltimore and Ohio Railroad "Pullman Green"

Sherwin-Williams USS 52105- E

“1 Gallon Formula”

U7380 1566.1

U7118 2759.1

U7303 3162.4

U7140 3481.8

U7110 3607.7

U7107 3682.8

U7106 3688.5
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Chesapeake and Ohio "Pullman Green"

DuPont Centari DS111

758S Centari Drier 4.5

717A Red Oxide 6.5

700A White 8.7

732A Fer Yellow 25.2

705A Black 90.5
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Delaware, Lackawanna and Western DL&W Standard Body

Sherwin-Williams USS 52103-E

“1 Gallon Formula”

U7379 1092.5

U7118 2146.0

U7140 2930.8

U7107 3431.2

U7302 3631.7

U7110 3771.3
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Seaboard "Pullman Green"

DuPont Dulux 4558D

5450S Drier 3.8

16D Orange 13.9

40D Yellow 38.4

2D Black 94.4
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Rutland "Pullman Green" DuPont

Centari YS451

758S Centari Drier 4.5

742A Blue Green 4.9

763A Orange 7.9

764A Yellow 48.2

705A Black 90.3
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Santa Fe Olive Green

DuPont Centari YS368

758S Drier 4.5

763A Orange 9.2

700A White 15.9

705A Black (HS) 43.0

764A Yellow 91.5
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Pennsylvania Railroad Tuscan Red

DuPont Dulux 5505D

5450S Drier 3.7

34D Dark Red 4.6

42D Violet 7.2

1D White 10.5

2D Black 21.8

35D Maroon 52.7

38D Red Oxide 91.0
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Dulux Gold

DuPont Dulux 014D

5450S Drier 4.0

16D Orange 4.5

13D Black 6.0

41D Light Yellow 22.3

23D White 49.1

5D Fer Yellow 99.1
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Central Railroad of New Jersey Imitation Gold

Sherwin-Williams USS 52104-E

“1 Gallon Formula”

U7131 1630.2

U7379 2722.7

U7110 3539.0

U7106 3634.5

U7302 3835.0

U7118 3967.6
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[FLtenwheeler]

Then there are the paint numbers I have found.

Here is what I have found on Pullman Green.
The first number I came up with was Dupont 5502 this is from C&NW passenger locomotive paint diagrams.
Dupont 5502 crosses to PPG 81649 This is the color and paint that I have used and it looks like Pullman green to me.
Now it gets fun. PPG 81649 does NOT cross back to Dupont 5502.
PPG 81649 crosses to Dupont 4558. Dupont calls this color Pullman Green.
Now you take Dupont 4558. It crosses to PPG 42791.
Then take PPG 42791 and you will come back to Dupont 4558.
That is 4 color numbers that in theory should be the same color.

When the Pullman Company stopped operating sleeping cars in 1969, they received more than a few inquiries requesting memorabilia or authentic Pullman supplies. This correspondence is in the Pullman collection at the Newberry Library in Chicago. One of the requests was for the paint numbers for "Pullman Green". The answer was:

1. PPG #66571
2. Minnesota Paints #7030-10

These would obviously be the last truly authentic versions of the color.

[ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES]

I'm curious are you asking what the numbers are about behind the color ? start with the first color lowest number and work your way up on a scale by weight that is the way we mix paint at the body shop I work at let, me know if this helps?

[FLtenwheeler]

I'm curious are you asking what the numbers are about behind the color ? start with the first color lowest number and work your way up on a scale by weight that is the way we mix paint at the body shop I work at let, me know if this helps?

What brand of paint are you using? Are you able to cross the DuPont numbers?

Tim

[ERIE S-1 BERKSHIRES]

Dupont automotive finishes turned into axalta paint I don't know if we can cross-reference it or not I will check with one of the paint guys